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Is this the start of a brave new future for Great Britain?


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elkiton
29th Jun 2016 20:15:49 (Last activity: 19th Jul 2016 17:43:31)
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I live abroad...and apart form the majority of working Brits what are very angry about the leaving vote, my discussions with foreign colleagues indicate that they are convinced that the only people wanting to leave are old, extreme right wing and twisted racists. It really shocks them when into the discussion I reveal that as a successful retiree ex-pat I voted for Brexit, and much to the anger of my working age children and partners. When I explain that I voted to go, and take the risks that go with it, namely in my case, because of the growing political agenda to (confirmed yesterday) build a super state in which we loose all control of our armed forces, and border control to Brussels; The sheer F.Up made of Greece and the resulting drive into poverty; and the inaction that allows terrorists et al to come in on a wave or refugees..and finally the fact that the EU prints money and the books have never passed an audit.........I get told by one of my Yank friends...You must be the one exception to the poor downtrodden masses with no PHD that hate immigrants..."
A very interesting view...Then I let on my family was Jewish immigrants and I have no PHD lol

More importantly, is how we well and how are going to negotiate before invoking Article 50, and using Juncers threats of harsh sanctions against anyone thinking about moving away, to our advantage.

For the fist time in 40 years politicians will have to earn their money by running the country, and not just haggling a few rough edges off the legislation that they have to follow, before implementing every damn edict coming out from Brussels HQ! Remember the no-bent-bananas law passed / then repealed saga ?

Take care.
TonyE
Response from celtwitch Original Poster made on 19th Jul 2016 17:43:31
Well said
viking
1st Jul 2016 13:21:21
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Much panic about the threats by the EU of no entry into the single market unless you agree to unlimited entry to the UK of migrants.
Uk is a small exporter to the EU compared to the exports from the EU to the UK.
As the UK is the biggest market in the EU for German cars and Spain exports the largest percentage of their salad market to the UK, presumably when the chips are down at the negotiating table, frau Merkel would not wish to harm their valuable asset, by us not allowing German goods into the UK ??
Christiana
29th Jun 2016 19:28:53 (Last activity: 1st Jul 2016 11:04:14)
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I'm thoroughbred pure English don't go by people's names
Response from jeanmark made on 1st Jul 2016 11:04:14
How can you be so sure? Have you taken a DNA test? Can you trace your family tree back to the Iron Age?
madcatnan
29th Jun 2016 18:20:45
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Well it will certainly be different! If your name is anything to go by, I would keep a low profile, being different is not a safe thing to be since the result!
Sandy 58
24th Jun 2016 20:48:56 (Last activity: 26th Jun 2016 15:09:33)
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It seems France and Holland are now also talking about a referendum. I think that a lot of people who voted didn't have a clear vision of how it will be if we stay in or go out and I'm sure a lot didn't vote at all because of this. At the end of the day could you trust the politicians on either side. The EU leaders are unhappy and if they don't make an example of the UK with the exit deal, then they stand to loose their well paid jobs if the EU disintegrates. It's a pity they didn't recognise sooner that they needed to review how the EU was running and make the necessary changes to ensure countries were proud to be a member.
It's worrying who will be at the helm of UK Government. Even if there was another general election,I don't see any great leaders emerging from any party
Response from Wilf made on 24th Jun 2016 20:54:48
The thing is politicians are only humans like the rest of us. Its strange how they are all demonised. maybe if they told it straight it would be different
Response from celtwitch Original Poster made on 25th Jun 2016 12:48:23
Politicians, with few exceptions, are self serving, grasping liars and few of them have ever done an honourable day's work in their lives, they leave university and embark on a political career because it's very lucrative. And, for some, if they make it to the EU, they are sorted financially for life. Don't feel sorry for them, they deserve to be demonised.
Response from MorrisandDoris made on 25th Jun 2016 13:59:28
Tony Blair for one should be in prison now for War Crimes !
Response from celtwitch Original Poster made on 25th Jun 2016 15:53:52
What 'war crimes' would that be then, exactly?
Response from MorrisandDoris made on 25th Jun 2016 16:40:12
Celtwitch

The illegal invasion of Iraq !
Response from celtwitch Original Poster made on 25th Jun 2016 18:53:33
The Iraqis wanted rid of a brutal, murderous dictator, we did that for them.
Response from MorrisandDoris made on 25th Jun 2016 23:46:38
Celtwitch
Yes I know,It was still illegal though,and now replaced by ISIS so it went well then !
Response from celtwitch Original Poster made on 26th Jun 2016 11:09:03
It was the responsibility of the Iraqis to run their own affairs after Hussein was toppled but, they chose anarchy, which IS has exploited. You can't blame Bush/Blair for that.
Response from MorrisandDoris made on 26th Jun 2016 12:46:48
Most do though !!
Response from jeanmark made on 26th Jun 2016 15:09:33
My oldest granddaughters name is Isis and she is getting tired of being blamed for everything. She's even been banned from entering some places when asked her name!
redskins
26th Jun 2016 13:58:31
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It seems today that a lot of m-ps who dished the doom and gloom on an exit are back tracking there is no doom and gloom just we have to make it work.I suppose they would have had a cushy life still if we had stayed in and the Scottish leader is picking her words now after the brush of from Belgium.Has anyone raised the ageist remarks ? that's discrimination.
No Mr Osbournes ,labour resignations,stop Boris,no job for Farage .STOP
The people have spoken those m-ps who are loathed or afraid to do some work go now get a people who want to go forward in place and start work Push the button let's deal with it I bet small industry bosses are
redskins
25th Jun 2016 12:05:15 (Last activity: 25th Jun 2016 22:24:27)
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What is going on? Another referendum because people did not like the result,I want to change my mind,London wants to be independent to keep their bank passport to the e-u.Come off it its over the people have voted live with it.Once again its the monied section that want it their way how dare the little people have a say.How many million pound would a re run cost? Stop whinging and get on with it and as for cutting Nigel Farage out of the leaving process who ever thought that up want to remember who got this through ,pity he isn't a m/p Boris be fair sort it out remember who got you this result Mr Cameron thought he was safe and gormless Corbyn.Stand up and go forward .
Response from MorrisandDoris made on 25th Jun 2016 14:04:23
I think they should run last nights Lottery draw again because I didn't win!
Response from JAMES58 made on 25th Jun 2016 16:05:48
I,m from Scotland and we have Nicola who will just keep having as many referendums as she wants until she gets the results she wants,so why cant everyone else do the same.
Response from KEITH_WL made on 25th Jun 2016 22:24:27
MorrisAndDoris has put the objection to these repeats very well. I think we might all put the lottery point in argument from time to time. Mockery can be potent and these repeats do deserve to be mocked.
Lilacj
24th Jun 2016 11:00:04 (Last activity: 24th Jun 2016 22:50:17)
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I sincerely hope so celtwitch. We live in a Labour stronghold of Caerphilly and are hoping for great improvements in the future.
Response from celtwitch Original Poster made on 24th Jun 2016 12:50:19
Da iawn, and diolch to the Welsh people who voted Leave.
Response from KEITH_WL made on 24th Jun 2016 22:50:17
Rydych chi Celt yn wir, CeltWitch!??
anf1408
24th Jun 2016 14:30:47
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It is a first step, and a significant one, but there is still a way to go.
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